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		<title>Megawords X Temple Urban Archives Screening at the Philadelphia Museum of Art</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Temple University Libraries&#8217; Urban Archives and Megawords Magazine are partnering for a screening as part of the Zoe Strauss: Ten Years exhibition at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. All films are drawn from our television news collection and are loosely inspired by the work of Zoe Strauss, Megawords and the PMA itself. All footage where [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Temple University Libraries&#8217; Urban Archives</strong> and <strong>Megawords Magazine</strong> are partnering for a screening as part of the <em>Zoe Strauss: Ten Years</em> exhibition at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. All films are drawn from our television news collection and are loosely inspired by the work of Zoe Strauss, Megawords and the PMA itself. All footage where the gaze of the news camera puts you in touch with the rituals, traditions, places and challenges of Philadelphia and its residents over three decades. Some material has screened at previous UA screenings and some is new.</p>
<p><strong>Advance tickets are free (but with a $3.50 service charge) here:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/yS1RTH">http://bit.ly/yS1RTH</a></p>
<p><strong>You could also come to the PMA earlier to reserve a seat with no charge.</strong></p>
<p>For more info and a full listing, <a href="http://megawordsmagazine.com/megawords-x-temple-urban-archives-screening-at-the-philadelphia-museum-of-art/">read more.</a></p>
<p><span id="more-1813"></span>Here is a full listing of the films:</p>
<p><strong>**“Assignment: 1747 Randolph Street” (Part 1)</strong> WPVI Public Affairs- 1966 (25:00)- The first half of a sometimes challenging 1966 documentary about poverty in North Philadelphia. The documentary focuses specifically on the Ludlow neighborhood, the scene of a brutal crime a year before and eventual target for reform by civic organizations and politicians. Vivid shots of neighborhood conditions are combined with interviews with a cross section of community leaders, politicians and residents.</p>
<p><strong>** “North Philadelphia Slums”</strong> KYW News- March 15, 1967 (2:24)- A camera sits in a car driving through North Philadelphia gazing at its bars and residents. Sometimes they look back, sometimes they hide their faces.</p>
<p><strong>** “Chinese New Year”</strong> KYW News- 1965 (5:37)- Black and white silent footage of the performers and audience in Chinatown’s 1965 New Year celebration.</p>
<p><strong>** “Ninth Street Merchants”</strong> KYW News- April 7, 1966 (5:28)- Black and white silent footage of the vendors and shoppers that made up Ninth Street in 1966.</p>
<p><strong>**“Graffiti and Wall Mural”</strong> WPVI Public Affairs- 1972 (12:00)- Vintage shots of a graffiti covered El ride, artist Sam Maitin debating with South Philadelphia neighbors as he paints a mural on the Fleisher Art Memorial, and street interviews with Philadelphians about art and graffiti. A quirky, fun piece about the politics and opinions on graffiti and murals in the city.</p>
<p><strong>**“Last game at Connie Mack stadium”</strong> KYW News- October 2, 1970 (8:48)- Color footage of the Phillies-Expos game morphs into footage of the confusion, chaos and detritus surrounding the last game at Connie Mack Stadium (Shibe Park). Philadelphians “celebrate” the end of the institution in their own unique way.</p>
<p><strong>** “Mummers (1953) &amp; Mummers</strong> (1966)” KYW News (5:40)- Black and white silent footage of one of Philadelphia’s most distinct celebrations. Well composed, beautiful shots of audiences and performers just south of City Hall, 13 years apart.</p>
<p><strong>** “Be-In”</strong> (excerpts) KYW News- April 17, 1967 (2:30)- Black and white silent footage of now infamous Ira Einhorn’s first “Be-In” in Fairmount Park in 1967. Footage of some of the estimated 2,000 people gathered near Strawberry Mansion as they mill about and play music.</p>
<p><strong>** “Hippies”</strong> KYW News- April 12, 1968 (4:37)- A news story on hippies in one of their most popular spaces to congregate in the 1960s, Rittenhouse Square. Hippies and residents alike perform for the camera and make the anchor’s job difficult as he tries to report on their future in the park.</p>
<p>*<strong>* “Sit-In”</strong> (excerpts) KYW News- March 11, 1965 (3:00)- Students from Temple University and University of Pennsylvania stage a sit-in, inside and outside the offices of U.S. Attorney General Drew J. T. O’Keefe in the Ninth and Market federal building. They were doing so to protest the “treatment of African-Americans conducting right-to-vote demonstrations in Selma, Alabama.”</p>
<p><strong>** “Art Museum”</strong> KYW News- September 15, 1967 (6:00)- Silent black and white footage of some of the pieces and reactions at the Philadelphia Museum of Art’s popular but polarizing “American Sculpture of the Sixties”. A few of the 130 pieces from 80 artists in the playful 1967 exhibition.</p>
<p><strong>** “Blimp Visits City”</strong> WFIL News- November 23, 1948 (1:18)- Very short but distinct vantage of Philadelphia through a 1948 Goodyear Blimp visit to our city. The camera treats the forms of the city below as abstractions.</p>
<p><strong>** “City Snow”</strong> KYW News- November 30, 1967 (1:30) &#8211; Short black and white footage of center city braving its way through a 1967 snow storm.</p>
<p><strong>** “Visions of A New Day: Bodegas ‘Mom and Pop Stores’”</strong> WPVI Public Affairs- March 18, 1976 (10:00)- Visions of a New Day highlights an integral part of Philadelphia’s Puerto Rican neighborhoods, the bodega (corner store). We’re taken through the streets and inside homes and stores during interviews with bodega owners and shoppers.</p>
<p><strong>** “Puerto Rican Drill Team”</strong> (excerpts) WPVI Public Affairs- 1970s (5:28) Documentary on the Puerto Rican Drill Team “Los Conquistadors” based around El Centro De Oro in North Philadelphia. The children of the drill team take over a small North Philadelphia Street when practicing their drills.</p>
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		<title>Megawords at the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please stop by PAFA and check out our new installation as part of the current show entitled Here. Our installation features collage and video work, and you&#8217;ll also be able to grab a copy of the latest issue of Megawords. See more photos on our project page. Find out more about the show at the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Please stop by PAFA and check out our new installation as part of the current show entitled<em> Here</em>. Our installation features collage and video work, and you&#8217;ll also be able to grab a copy of the latest issue of Megawords.</p>
<p>See more photos on our <a href="http://megawordsmagazine.com/projects/here/">project</a> page. Find out more about the show at the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Art&#8217;s <a href="http://www.pafa.org/Museum/Exhibitions/Currently-On-View/here/1027/" target="_blank">website</a>.</p>
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		<title>Megawords installation in New York City</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re putting together an installation for a Creative Time Project called Living as Form (more info at http://creativetime.org/programs/archive/2011/livingasform/about.htm). The show opens on September 24th at the Historic Essex Street Market in Manhattan, and it runs for 4 weeks. We&#8217;re creating a teen-aged warehouse hangout, and will be hosting events by KillScreen Magazine and the Copenhagen [...]]]></description>
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<p>We&#8217;re putting together an installation for a <strong>Creative Time Project called<em> Living as Form </em></strong><em>(</em><em><a href="http://creativetime.org/programs/archive/2011/livingasform/about.htm">more info at http://creativetime.org/programs/archive/2011/livingasform/about.htm</a>)</em>. The show opens on September 24th at the Historic Essex Street Market in Manhattan, and it runs for 4 weeks. We&#8217;re creating a teen-aged warehouse hangout, and will be hosting events by KillScreen Magazine and the Copenhagen Game Collective, music by  “The Brutalist School” AKA Hsi-Chang Lin, more music by Georgia and a participatory dance performance organized by Joanna Quigley of Free Movement Specialists, INC.</p>
<p>A new issue of Megawords will also be available!</p>
<p><strong>September 24–October 16 </strong><br />
Thursday–Sunday, 12–8 PM<br />
The historic Essex Street Market<br />
Southeast corner of Essex and Delancey Streets  (entrance on Delancey)<br />
New York City<br />
See a Google map <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Southeast+corner+of+Essex+and+Delancey+Streets+NYC&amp;hl=en&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=37.598824,73.828125&amp;vpsrc=0&amp;t=h&amp;z=16">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Here are some details about Megawords specific events (subject to change, so please check back for updates!)</strong><br />
<strong><em> September 24, Saturday</em></strong><br />
8pm<br />
Show opens and live music performance by &#8220;The Brutalist School&#8221; AKA Hsi-Chang Lin</p>
<p><em><strong>September 30, Friday</strong></em><br />
Two sessions<br />
4:30 and 6:30pm<br />
Kill Screen presents Copenhagen Game Collective&#8217;s Johan Sebastian Joust</p>
<p><em><strong>October 8 , Saturday</strong></em><br />
6-8pm<br />
Music by Justin Tripp and Brian Close of Georgia. Food by Megawords</p>
<p><em><strong>October 14, Friday and October 15, Saturday</strong></em><br />
Three 20 minute performances each day<br />
2pm, 4pm and 6pm<br />
Free Movement Specialists, INC. is happy to guide you on a journey to being free. Free of all technique, all preexisting dance crazes and all worries of what you really look like when dancing in public. THIS is a judgement free zone.</p>
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		<title>Megawords talk at PAFA</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[NOVEMBER 17 @ PAFA &#8211; FOR YOUR PLEASURE We&#8217;re giving a talk as part of the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts Art at Lunch lecture series. Join us for a discussion of the importance of independent viewpoints and collaborations when making art. Delve into the Megawords project history and the stories of our own creative [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>NOVEMBER 17 @ PAFA &#8211; <em>FOR YOUR PLEASURE </em></strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;re giving a talk as part of the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts Art at Lunch lecture series. Join us for a discussion of the importance of independent viewpoints and collaborations when making art. Delve into the Megawords project history and the stories of our own creative processes, alternative means of communication and dissemination of ideas.</p>
<p><strong>Please join us! </strong><br />
Wendesday, November 17, 2010 Noon to 1pm<br />
Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts<br />
118 North Broad Street<br />
Directions here:<br />
<a href="http://www.pafa.org/Visit-PAFA/18/">www.pafa.org</a></p>
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		<title>This coming Saturday in Berlin &#8211; Making Space Taking Place</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[www.artitu.de Zwei Künstlerduos aus Skandinavien und Berlin bestreiten im Oktober das vorläufige Finale der Ausstellungsreihe „Super Reactive Subjects“ im Senatsreservenspeicher. Präsentiert werden zwei Projekte aus Kopenhagen und Istanbul, die – im öffentlichen Raum entstanden – zum ersten Mal als Installationen ausgestellt werden. Als Grenzgänger, nicht nur innerhalb der Stadt, sondern auch in einer beschleunigten und [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.artitu.de/?p=1214">www.artitu.de</a></p>
<p>Zwei Künstlerduos aus Skandinavien und Berlin bestreiten im Oktober das vorläufige Finale der Ausstellungsreihe „Super Reactive Subjects“ im Senatsreservenspeicher. Präsentiert werden zwei Projekte aus Kopenhagen und Istanbul, die – im öffentlichen Raum entstanden – zum ersten Mal als Installationen ausgestellt werden. Als Grenzgänger, nicht nur innerhalb der Stadt, sondern auch in einer beschleunigten und globalisierten Metropolengesellschaft, untersuchen die Künstler städtische und künstlerische Freiräume, materielle und gedankliche Rückzugsorte. Diese gleichen vorübergehenden Schutzräumen oder selbst erschaffenen Inseln, die ihr urbanes Umfeld hinterfragen.</p>
<p>Eröffnung: Sa, 16. Oktober, 19:00</p>
<p>Ausstellungsdauer: 17. Oktober – 6. November</p>
<p>Do – So, 14.00 – 20.00 und nach Vereinbarung.</p>
<p>Eintritt frei</p>
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		<title>Now Reading &#8211; Design as Art by Bruno Munari</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 02:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;A designer is a planner with an aesthetic sense. &#8220;]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;A designer is a planner with an aesthetic sense. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>Franz Gertsch</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a painting.]]></description>
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<p>This is a painting.</p>
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		<title>An Interview with William Pym</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Smyrski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interview by ANTHONY SMYRSKI and DAN MURPHY

How did you end up where you are now, what was the trajectory?
Will: A month before I finished college—2006—I had a show at Harvard University. When I was doing my thesis show for painting, I had a gallery show in New York at Rivington Arms. I thought I was going to be in New York or Boston. I thought I had a handle on it. I thought I was going to find a way to live and work and party and stay fabulous. I went home after I graduated, came back and went to see my friends in Philly for one last time. At the pub we got so drunk, I just got done watching England in the World Cup with my best friend… I fell asleep on the couch with my neck over the edge. I woke up, and that drunk sweat just poured out of the back of my neck and soaked this couch. I watched Wild At Heart, the David Lynch film, I passed out in the middle of the afternoon, soaked this horrible, filthy couch—and I decided then, that it wasn’t going to work out for me in New York because I was obviously too much of a disaster.]]></description>
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<p><strong>How did you end up where you are now, what was the trajectory?</strong><br />
Will: A month before I finished college—2006—I had a show at Harvard University. When I was doing my thesis show for painting, I had a gallery show in New York at Rivington Arms. I thought I was going to be in New York or Boston. I thought I had a handle on it. I thought I was going to find a way to live and work and party and stay fabulous. I went home after I graduated, came back and went to see my friends in Philly for one last time. At the pub we got so drunk, I just got done watching England in the World Cup with my best friend… I fell asleep on the couch with my neck over the edge. I woke up, and that drunk sweat just poured out of the back of my neck and soaked this couch. I watched Wild At Heart, the David Lynch film, I passed out in the middle of the afternoon, soaked this horrible, filthy couch—and I decided then, that it wasn’t going to work out for me in New York because I was obviously too much of a disaster. I clearly saw from that day, I didn’t have what it took to hack it on the Lower East Side and to make ends meet and make work and be seen five, six, seven days a week, and to keep up with the society pages—which was what I thought being “successful” was.</p>
<p>I thought it was the easiest thing in the world: Know people. Know people with influence. Know people with money. Know people who want to see you—I mean, it’s visibility and fabulousness, the society pages of W magazine and Vice magazine or Harper’s Bazaar. I was fascinated with the fact that I could look good, fresh gear, throw money around. But none of that stuff I have the ability to sustain.</p>
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<p><strong>Was art doing anything for you?</strong><br />
Will: I was only just getting started. I saw the potential of what it could be—it could be easy. I thought: me. I’m foreign. Which, I’m not even legitimately foreign. I’m half-American.</p>
<p><strong>Right. </strong><br />
Will: So, I came to Philadelphia and gave up all that.</p>
<p><strong>Is it something you still want?</strong><br />
Will: Being an artist, painting, sitting with your passport when you’re at customs and you write where your profession is: “artist.” That’s definitely a liberating feeling.</p>
<p><strong>Dan:</strong> I’ve put “artist” at different times, depending on my mental state on the airplane.</p>
<p>Will: I’m jealous of people who have never even thought of putting anything else.</p>
<p><strong>What defines being an artist for you?</strong><br />
Will: Someone who doesn’t feel themselves in any way accountable for their actions, because what they do is in some sort of parallel state. You’re involved in the world of art, which is totally unpractical, or you’re involved in the world of the world, which is a very practical place. If you write down “artist” on the customs form that means you don’t have to deal with the reality of the world around you, ‘cause you’ve got a higher cause. My position now as a dealer, which is bizarre, is to encourage [artists] and to enable them to live in this parallel universe.</p>
<p><strong>Because it’s conducive to their creative process?</strong><br />
Will: Yeah, they’ll make better work.</p>
<p>Dan: What about these people who are very competent and well spoken about their work, and are integrated and are very successful. They’re not even really good artists, but they sustain themselves on looking good and being seen, doing everything right—writing grants well. They’re fully sustainable.</p>
<p><strong>They’re working the system.</strong><br />
Will: It’s a job.</p>
<p><strong>I think you have a perspective on a certain kind of art that I don’t have the same knowledge of. I think we’re at this weird spot right now where that kind of art doesn’t know where it belongs, culturally.</strong><br />
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<p><strong>Dan: </strong>You’re saying that since art doesn’t function in the real world, since everything that’s happening now is so immediate, with the Internet and the media in general—I feel that a lot of art reflects that.</p>
<p><strong>Yea. It is created from what’s happening right now. So, where are these artists drawing their inspiration from? A lot of what we do, comes from our environment, our observations of daily experience. That’s because we function in the real world. Then there’s the sort of people who push themselves farther and farther away from reality and accountability. Is their artwork relevant to anyone but themselves? </strong><br />
Will: Well, they’re putting themselves in a dangerous position. It’s a position that was created by the birth of the commercial art scene. They can commit to being looked after by somebody in the art world. This management is protecting artists from the real world.</p>
<p><strong>The actual system of managing artists—it’s protecting them from the real world? It’s not just your method? </strong><br />
Will: No. I don’t even do that good a job of it. If I did a better job of protecting my artists from the real world, I would be a lot richer. My artists would be a lot richer.</p>
<p>Dan: Aren’t the most dark, most reclusive people making a lot of the most pop shit right now? It seems like the most pop, candy, crisp music and art is coming out of the people that are less integrated. They’re integrated in this new way, in this MySpace kind of way.</p>
<p>Will: Think about Daniel Johnston. His tapes went around to whichever stores he would go to. But today, if he had access to MySpace, sure—</p>
<p><strong>So, does access to MySpace make art less genuine? </strong><br />
Will: There’s a rift. There are two different worlds: the world of complete, immediate availability to everyone, mostly 100 percent free. Then, there’s the gallery scene, [which is] clinging to this mold from the ‘60s. You can’t keep art from the world, and the world from art and artists.</p>
<p><strong>How did you hook up with Fleischer Ollman after you decided to stay in Philly?</strong><br />
Will: I worked at Utrecht at Broad and Spruce, next to Philadelphia International Records.</p>
<p><strong>This was after New York? </strong><br />
Will: Yes. I didn’t do anything for a couple of months. And then I was flat broke and working at Utrecht and still pretty destitute. I started hating it so much that I didn’t look after myself and I didn’t wash my Utrecht T-shirt. The manager was constantly hitting on me and I told him that I wanted a two-week vacation to London. And he would say stuff to me like, “Oh, I was thinking about going to London. We could go clubbing. You could show me around.” I said, “Listen, I want to go home and see my family and friends. I’m not sure I can show you around.” And, he goes, “Maybe you should take a bath.” And I turned around and said, “What the fuck did you say?” And he’s like, “Nothing.” So I went into the back room, took my shirt off, and I walked out of the store.</p>
<p>I did nothing for three months after that. Then I got a job painting the walls that summer at Fleisher Ollman. And the next day, he’s like, “Do you want to come in a couple days a week?” The next day I came in, and I didn’t take a day off after that. I started answering the phones, packing things. And when that final person left, the boss and I had lunch. We had turkey burgers. He says, “Do you want to be the director?”</p>
<p><strong>How long had you been there?</strong><br />
Will: Two years. Parallel to this, is me, desperate to have a good girl and stability and stardom. I’ve been desperate since I was 20-years-old to have that.</p>
<p><strong>How long have you been the director?</strong><br />
Will: One year. This show that’s coming up is a sort of testimonial show of everything that I’ve wanted to say in the past year.</p>
<p><strong>When you say “director,” I’m curious as to what that means. You’re the curator as well? </strong><br />
Will: Yes. I decide month to month what every show is going to be and the cost. The program is a story. There’s a narrative. The story is closing the gap between art and life and normal peoples’ lives. Like what we were talking about. There’s a massive rift. Contemporary art is at a high level. It only serves itself and anyone who’s involved in that work. There’s that guy Martin Kippenberger. He said the act of living was his art, and a lot of people accused him of being a fake and charlatan. He just wanted to live. He didn’t want his art to take him away from his life.<br />
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I find that there are two extremes. There is either high-end conceptual art that’s dense and hard to understand from the outsider’s perspective. If you don’t know the codes to decipher it, then it’s inaccessible. Then, there’s the opposite extreme, which is, since it is accessible it has to be ugly and quick and doesn’t mean anything. Do you know what I mean?</strong><br />
Will: Absolutely. The fact that the terms used and the kind of arguments made to make it accessible—it’s no different from someone talking about a hip-hop producer. It’s gobbledygook to someone who hasn’t had the training in what is being talked about.</p>
<p><strong>That training costs money.</strong><br />
Will: No. It doesn’t cost money. All training—all it costs is conversation.</p>
<p><strong>I don’t know if that’s true because there’s a social realm that conversation exists in.</strong><br />
Will: My gallery is paying for me to go to Basel, Switzerland, which is just a horrendously dull place. It costs money and it costs fucking time. Then, I get the education that I need in order to keep up.</p>
<p><strong>I don’t identify with it. There’s a part of me that is sick of the skateboard graffiti bullshit, because it’s not even the graffiti skateboarding that I knew, ever. I don’t see myself ever identifying with that higher art world, either. </strong><br />
Will: I’m trying to make a middle ground and Philadelphia is the right place to do it, because it’s not New York, where everyone needs to know which social game they’re playing at any given time.</p>
<p>Dan: The middle ground is interesting, though. Like what you said about Barry McGee. People in that scene think that they are at the top. People in that scene, it’s like, well Barry is the most famous student, Jeffrey Deitch is the biggest art dealer in our scene. But then you realize that’s not really what’s going on. This is also going on elsewhere—times millions of dollars.</p>
<p>Will: I’m trying to find out how to be comfortable with the idea of having that title, “producer,” and what it means.</p>
<p><strong>It’s a strange title. You have to have a different perspective on things than the individuals you use to make the larger project. </strong><br />
Will: People are willing to collaborate with you much more quickly than if you were just two fellow artists. It feels like there’s less competition and less ego involved. Unfortunately, for me sometimes I feel like it’s been reduced so far that I have no identity in this producer role. No one ever asks me how I’m doing. It’s just kind of a given. As part of my 24 hour job description, that I’m always solid.</p>
<p><strong>That’s your doing.</strong><br />
Will: Certainly. When you look good all the time, no one ever tells you that you look good. And that’s not fair.</p>
<p><strong>That’s one thing you miss from when you were an individual artist?</strong><br />
Will: I do lament the idea that I am in any way different than the artists I’ve worked with. Temperamentally, I started off exactly the same as them. I slowly adopted a kind of persona or a mode of working day to day. I enjoy looking at the shows, but my name doesn’t get mentioned. I don’t want to be this kind of Guru, or super producer. I don’t want to be Timbaland. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and realize that it would be a good idea to have an ego as a producer.</p>
<p><strong>Okay, here’s a question. Is knowing art an art in itself?</strong><br />
Will: It’s considered a different discipline because it’s considered threatening to the artist.</p>
<p><strong>What is threatening?</strong><br />
Will: It’s ancient. [Artists] have some sort of mystic connection with, well, God. Now, they have a profound, tuned in connection with extremely wealthy people. There’s not really religious art any more.</p>
<p><strong>Artists of a certain level are producing work strictly with these patrons in mind. Consciously or not, when they’re making artwork—the thing is marketability? Doesn’t that violate the pureness of the artistic act? </strong><br />
Will: Yea. The artistic act is thoroughly compromised at this point. And, yes, it’s pretty necessary to cling on to the sacredness of the artistic act. What we’ve got to do is let go of what we have here.</p>
<p><strong>And then what? Get out of the gallery?</strong><br />
Will: I think that would be ok.</p>
<p><strong>So where does the artwork get shown?</strong><br />
Will: Now we’re getting somewhere interesting. Music, something which was previously only able to be enjoyed live and in person, can now be beamed through the ether. A lot of art will be able to be reproduced from the pages of a magazine or a disc. There are no churches to put artwork in.</p>
<p><strong>And museums are strange places, too.</strong><br />
Will: Any institution that’s becoming increasingly uncomfortable places for viewing art. I mean MOMA is loaded with compromise. It’s just the experience of museum going—it’s not the experience of art. You can’t see the work. It’s noisy and there’s never a chance to be there when it’s quiet.</p>
<p><strong>So what’s your ideal?</strong><br />
Will: The reason I was interested in art as a kid, was simply because I loved the experience of being in museums and having this kind of communication with works of art. And, for various reasons, [these days], people don’t have time or space in their brain to commune. Everything is efficiency, expertise, specialization. The economy thrives on the fact that we’re constantly renewing—</p>
<p><strong>Consuming. </strong><br />
Will: They’re speaking consumption. Just, pure consumption. Like a waste producing machine. I mean, art’s gotta stick? That’s my ultimate thesis as a dealer. Art’s got to be disposable. Made out of paper—or, it’s got to have the ability to last centuries. It’s one or the other.</p>
<p>Indulgences. The practices of indulgences. Like, buying a new car—it’s not an emotional or spiritual indulgence that’s being encouraged. I would encourage spiritual indulgence, ‘cause I would like to indulge in it myself. And I would like my surroundings to—</p>
<p><strong>Cultivate it.</strong><br />
Will: Yea. That’s when I actually can think. In my house—it’s a world away from other environments.</p>
<p><strong>That’s something that becomes more and more obvious to me as I get older—how much your mental environment is intruded upon by outside forces that you have no control over. Do you see art having some function in being counter to this?</strong><br />
Will: Art is an expression that will resonate in generations to come. Art is something that can educate and illuminate somebody who comes from completely different circumstances than you—someone whom you never met, and you never will meet.<br />
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